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Topics peeing outdoors. Paul brings up the subject of women peeing outdoors and mentions how he has been trying to make a video on this subject for a long time and the difficulties in getting women to participate. Anna Birkas who is in the process of writing a book called "How to Pee Without TP", leads the conversation and describes in great detail the methods and maintenance of peeing in the great outdoors and doing so comfortably.
She is also designing a line of pants for women that allow them to pee more easily when outdoors. Jocelyn adds her views and observations as well. Guys of course had to pee outside and didn't have a problem with it. When the females finally asked to pee , I pointed to the treeline and let them know that there was toilet paper over there if they needed it. We had a fire going too so I just told them to throw the tp in the fire when they were done.
Some were okay with it and some weren't. Those who weren't then, are now. As soon as they come over, they just pop a squat and handle business so now it's the norm. They just ask where I want them to pee this time haha Sometimes I specify though. One time my partner was peeing outside near a garden. Near that garden were potted plants. Mid stream I run over by him and squat over the closest potted plant and went to town!
It shocked him a little bit, but then we laughed about it and uhm well I'll leave that next part out, but it's definitely great when you can share lifestyles with someone who cares and accepts similarly. Gotta leave something when you go! Why not leave FREE accumulated fertilizer and healthy plants?! Woop Woop! Thyri Gullinvargr. Pee isn't always sterile. I double checked my recollection on this and typhoid can spread via urine although feces is more likely as can Ebola per the CDC.
The more obvious example of urine not being sterile is people with urinary tract infections. What I don't know is the risk, which may be rather small, but would probably increase with population density. Urine may be less likely than other bodily fluids to be a problem, but it still needs to be handled appropriately. Disease and drugs mostly thinking prescription drugs can pull it a bit into the gray, although drugs wouldn't affect whether it's sterile but instead whether it's toxic. Back on track, I'm an A type.
Not that I wouldn't go outside at need, but even inside things tend to get messy when I pee. Also, I'm one of the ones with knee problems. However, I'm pretty flexible so the "bending over" variation might work where squatting won't. I'm not particularly shy, but I am aware of legal repercussions of getting caught and live in an urban area.
Bryant John. I have always been a fan of peeing outside, we have a septic system and I never did feel good about it just going into the drainage field so i started peeing out in the garden.. I think it has helped a few of the struggling plants out. I had a hard time convincing my wife to do this though. She was not a fan of the squat also not as discrete for her and we do live by a fairly busy road so I dont blame her.
Sarah Houlihan. When we moved out to the woods and lived in a tent for the summer I did not like peeing outside. Out of necessity I learned to like it very quickly. Alternatives were driving to town to pee or squat. We did quickly get an outhouse with a bucket and a commode frame with a view too and it was better.
But it was still a walk if you had to pee in the middle of the night. It's not bad once you get used to it. And I have awesome squat muscles. Oh, I'm just so excited to make my own outdoor composting potty area this summer!!! Just thought I'd share that and hopefully, I'll be able to follow through with it and update you guys too! Alexandra Clark.
I have been peeing outside all my life whenever it is appropriate. I love being a part of the circle of nature, offering my nitrogen and excess minerals through the sterile blood filtrate of my urine. Urine is not waste but liquid gold for the garden as most of you know. I feel a bit guilty when I use the toilet instead of putting it on plants or in the compost pile. I have an outdoor potty, which is simply a large plastic child's sand pail.
Sometimes I use tp, but if I am in a hurry I just pull up the pants. I have one behind the back fence gate for privacy and the other in the garage, so there is never a need to go into the house. Pee goes into the compost scraps outdoor bucket along with spent coffee grounds and a few times a week the guano from my parrots. What a beautiful nutrient and microbiological brew! LMAO the things we get excited about! I decided that my tangents weren't suitable for this thread anymore since they also include males Still anointing bales here.
Having to rethink things quickly as we are about to go into having lots of people visit because of the truck garden and where can the pee-bale and enclosure get moved to? It really is nice not to have to run all the way back to the house and the rotted down bale turns into lovely compost I recently had a trip and toured a lot of public restrooms and spaces and remember why I'm not going to have public bathrooms.
Dolores Jimenez. Hi, for me indoor or outdoor is not a problem. I use disposable funnels like the ones at www. Orion Sheldon. I am all about peeing outdoors. I mean, why not? However, like others have stated, the law is an issue.
Still waiting on not being broke so that i can move outta the city and pee outside like a normal mammal Ashley Neff. Remember chamber pots? I'm born of, and living in, Appalachia. Some folks were so poor "they didn't have a pot to pee in. I'll pee outside if I'm hiking usually out gathering medicinals or edibles with a squat, shake, and dry for a few seconds. I've had four children. I learned how to navigate the sideways spray with the way I squat and position my legs.
I used to carry a small oil funnel never used for a car obviously in my bag for minimizing splash or spray until I figured out how to position my squat. I'll pee indoors if I'm indoors obviously, but I prefer to collect the urine in a bucket and spread it around the garden edge or put it directly on the compost. Can't do that in a public potty, but at home it's feasible. Norma Guy. What I hate most about peeing outside is mosquito bites on the arse!
Only an outdoors pee-er out of necessity, but on our land it is a necessity until there is a commode. I have learned to place two rocks closely, squat over them and aim between them so it doesn't splash me. Bury your tp, or burn it when there's a fire going. For my next trip, I have already described to my partner my plans to build a "pee-pi" a moveable 3-pole tipi that you pee inside of and then move to a new spot, for privacy.
We camp in a fairly open area surrounded by rocks, and the lads will go anywhere but I need a bit more of a secluded squat. I'm afraid to go very far at night wolves, coyotes, bears and mountain lions, but no people so I might build something more substantial at some point. Just not a priority right now. If you're going to be anywhere for more than a few days, it's necessary to lay some ground rules about where and how, or risk stepping in something unpleasant a noob left lying around.
Pearl Sutton. I learned a lesson the hard way. I have lived in the desert almost all of my life, just moved to Missouri. When we were property shopping and I was walking properties, looking at the terrain and soil and deciding if it was good permaculture land, I'd often take a quick pee break, because we had been driving all day from place to place.
You know what is in MO that ain't in the desert? I learned the hard way that wise women here don't pee in the deep grass. And for weird reasons, I didn't realize that was what was going on, and it just got worse and worse. A couple hundred chigger bites on your girl parts is an incredibly painful experience.
Cheap aloe vera gel with lidocaine you get it by the sunscreen at drugstores helps a lot with the pain until it all heals. Oh my. I'm much more careful now!! Ron Tan. A good way to boost N in the soil? Kate McRae. Old thread, but the story is still current pun intended. I didn't read through all replies, so forgive me if this has already been posted. Sturdy enough to sit on, too. What else In women, the urethra extends outside the body, not as far as a man's, of course, but actually enough for direction, if you chose to direct it manually pre-peeing.
Since you've got labia down there too, and they tend to extend earthward as you age, you want to make sure to free your urethra so you can pee forward and not aside the leg or on your shoes. I know several women who can pee standing, though they've not to my knowledge tried it while wearing pants As for peeing in my garden, I have comfrey Bocking 4 and Bocking sterile sorts that won't spread by seed growing in lots of different places.
It's never far to go to use one as some makeshift tp, it's soft and kind of absorbent, and you can let it mulch down right there. Otherwise, shaking works quite well! Melissa Bracy. I'm in camp A. Men just "poke out" and stand there - a bystander my not even know what's going on. For me the pants are all kinds of in the way. Pants dictate squat position, instead of how I would naturally squat. Honestly, I used to pee on my pants while squating as a child when camping, so now I'm always ultra-careful about that and it messes with me a little.
Cuffs get pee on them from splash, run-off, or the occasional, unintentional side-aimed stream. And yes, splash is an issue even out here with no pavement for miles around. Splash is always an issue in squating body proximity - if you're not wearing shoes you will feel all the teeny-tiny dropplets you can't see. While keeping focus on positioning of clothing more than anything else, I have toppled before - which sucks.
This has only happened when I'm layered up for winter with extra pants and padding to mess with, but it sure made me feel foolish. I do pee outside, but for comfort I will use a toilet first if it's nearby. And yeah, I could wear a skirt, but I don't want to. And yeah, I can pee standing up, but pants are still in the way. As a frequent put door peeing lady I have no real issues with the squat except the occasional splash.
Recently tried the cup method for all of my peeing for several days and boy was I surprised! Eliminated splash but oh my The cup was nearly a pint and as it turns out I can pee 2 pints in a go!?!?! Very informative but I think id need a massive cup to use this method on the regular. Michi Harper.
I first ran into this issue on a visit to Eastwind commune in Missouri, where they were experimenting with humanure and didn't want us peeing in the future fertilizer. I really had trouble with this. Issue 1 As an anthropologist, I believe that women evolved hiding to pee, because the combo of the position of squatting and the action of urinating leave us vulnerable to predators.
I never found a place to pee that felt safe. When one's pants are around one's ankles, it's impossible to move quickly. You guys will have a better understanding of this if you poop outdoors. The position, the vulnerability, all that goes along with your pooping, we deal with every single time we urinate. I think the fear of being caught whilst copping a squat is probably ingrained so deeply in us that it may be hardwired in our limbic system.
Issue 2 the paper! Air drying might be okay if one has skinny thighs and wears no underwear or pants, otherwise, we need TP. Carrying used TP in one's pocket is disgusting, and burying it isn't always easy Issue 3 Women, in general, when going to the bathroom, do not necessarily differentiate the signals for bowel movements out separately from urination. While urinating, we may start to poop and that's just grand if you are on a toilet and have TP.
One can train oneself to differentiate the biological urges after all, men can do it but there is a learning curve! I know this is an old thread. I hope you don't mind my two cents. Thanks for your consideration. Maybe it's the squatting position while urinating that initiates the I uncomfortable safety instinct. I now pee standing up, so I no longer have that feeling of a need to "hide" in order to urinate. Like some women, initially I found it impossible to separate urination from defecation.
It took some training on my part. Even so, there are sometimes difficulties but not very often. I find it best to urinate first, getting that over with, then defecate. So all in all, I have little problem anymore. Perhaps it is the standing position that makes it easy to separate the two functions, but once squatting, my body takes the signal to do both.
At home on the farm I use a funnel to pee into a gallon jug. And a strip of rag to dry off. The rags go in with the routine laundry for washing and re-use. Standing to urinate seems very normal to me now, but it did take training.
The truth of the matter, I prefer to stand. It's easier on my body now that I'm almost Back in the victorian era, women wore hoop skirts and crotchless bloomers. It was polite to stand with your feet together, because a wide stance, indicated only by the feet, indicated that one was "having a slash". So women could pee anywhere pretty discreetly back then, because of their clothing. Hang a left on main. Then read this tiny ad:. Boost this thread! Paul Wheaton Live?!?
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